They show reps who love being in the field and are all smiles to be at the morning meeting; team nights; holiday parties; never-ending socializing and good times; and most prominently, snapshots from the annual owners’ vacation – an all-expenses paid trip for owners and top leaders to some beautiful tropical location with plenty of fun and relaxation, bountiful awards, and hobnobbing with the literal only handful of people who actually have made millions of dollars from this business – the people at the top. But the new owner’s promoting owner also gets a percentage of what the new office sells. Congratulations! The larger their team, the greater likelihood they can train a sufficient number of team leaders. If you do enough research, you will find patterns. I was giving it the opportunity to change my mind, in that I was on the fence because of all the things I had mentioned before like I could see that it was manipulating people; I could see that the only way that you could get ahead in the business was by being willing to sort of dismiss your own personal ethics in order to get ahead. So some of the job titles of people there I think are very telling and might be helpful, because they had people who were regional managers. You are responsible for building your team leaders into managers and handling their day breakdowns, one-on-one’s, and leaders’ meetings. Some things to look out for are photographs of people who have risen through the business to open their own office, and the “Step 7 boards” of the team leaders – which reflect their goals, dreams, and aspirations. A 1979 Federal Trade Commission ruling regarding the Amway Corporation opened the door for companies to operate as legal MLMs while not technically being pyramid schemes. What ties the series together, as the title implies, is betrayal. And they also use a lot of the same marketing tactics and strategies that they’re teaching to us to apply to people, and taking that and directing it toward the employees, so they’re not just teaching you how to sell, they’re selling the job to you every single day and that’s why those “morning meetings” were so manipulative because you have to go to these morning meetings – you don’t “have to” go to the morning meetings – but you have to go because it reflects on your performance. Every positive thing you will do is a reflection of your keeping these commandments. It relies on desperation. At 9AM, the workshop starts. If it’s family or free time: you’ll get to set your own hours; you’ll get to take off when you want to;you’ll be able to spend as much time as you want with the people you love. These weekly or biweekly meetings, which sometimes take place as early as 7 in the morning before a full day in the store, are lessons in the correct script to follow when conducting 2nd round interviews, having critical conversations, and indoctrinating your team members with the correct mentality for what they are being told to do. Scheibeler: People tell you how wonderful you are and how much opportunity you have; and who doesn’t want to hear that? This was my world for 15 months. We focus on PVP, with activities in other areas of EVE, are casual- friendly, and we would like you to join us! Cuz there’s some owners that I’ve seen that have come in and left a few months later and they’re like, “I just can’t sit there and lie to all these people over and over and over again.” We’ve had a lot of good people that worked for us and it never ends good. Bumping again, we are still recruiting, contact us ingame! I guess they sold me with that, because during that time I was struggling. And it sets up this series of rewards and punishments where you’re rewarded for working without getting paid, where you’re rewarded for putting your own personal time, effort and energy into it – without compensation – and you’re socially punished, or psychologically punished for questioning the system. I don’t think we’re any more full-of-shit than any other entry-level sales organization; I just think we are better trained to package and present the bullshit in a way that’s attractive to somebody that doesn’t know any better. The towel – I actually use that at my job during the hot summer days – and it sucks – like it wipes the sweat off pretty good but I mean it doesn’t really keep you cool. As an owner, you are responsible for scheduling and filling in for people who call-off. Just a person who mysteriously gives only their first name in what is supposed to be perceived as a reputable dissemination to the media. .” “opportunity…opportunity…opportunity…” We can only conclude, based on the evidence, that “Fair Business Report” is just a front – another method used by this business to improve its Internet image; to cover its tracks; to dismiss negative critiques of their methods; and to continue to sucker people in to a life of sales servitude. In fact, the whole concept of sales is downplayed. Eventually you get to the price points. It relies on high turnover. As an owner, you are constantly being monitored, influenced, and sometimes disciplined by your promoting owner, the regional and national consultants, and the executives of the parent company. They were like, “Hey don’t talk to this guy, he doesn’t do this.” Or they wouldn’t promote you, where you could be a shitty half-ass owner, but if you sat there and sniffed Larissa’s farts, then they’d be like, “Aw this chick’s awesome!” Blah blah blah. – The presentations themselves which are exciting, that get people thinking about being wealthy and independent and free of all the pressures of debts and so on… They don’t tell you the hard data: the loss rates, the dropout rates, the cost and so on that you’re going to incur. If it’s fame: you’ll be lauded in this business; you’ll be one of the top owners; people around the country will know your name. Cuz it’s pretty much like, “Hey you get into management and you’re gonna bring this team with you and you’re gonna grow and make a hundred G’s.” And I think that was kinda how it was,you know, how they promote it to you; and then you realize it was you and two people moving across the country running two shows and that’s not necessarily how it works. All of the people who were at that leadership conference who were speaking positively of it and who said “Oh it changed my life, it was amazing, “it’s the best thing ever” – not a single one of them addressed why we have such a massive turnover rate. (angelic sounds) It’s kind of relevant that the previous place I worked was The Tile Shoppe, and I don’t know if you know this but there is a class-action lawsuit out against them for a bunch of “labor law violations.” And I had seen a lot of not the exact same thing, but the same attitude employed there to try to sucker people in to taking shitty positions. And that’s the person that might be working 50, 55 hours a week. Then I would literally thank God that I had another precious hour of sleep before beginning another day – identical to the last, and identical to the next. That’d be great, but overall they really just target those sharper people who are just kinda like down on their luck and can’t find a decent job at that time or moment and just really exploit them. I’ll admit – the first time I was sold this script, I bought it wholeheartedly. If you show at least a little interest, you will be allowed to spend some time watching the sales performance, taking plenty of good notes to display your strong student mentality. In one particular meeting, the owner breaks down explicitly how to go about recruiting people you know, and tells you how this is the fastest way to build your team and move through the program. No they haven’t. They’re like half there. That’s what they’re called. “Working” (slow speed) (slow speed) Right? That’s about the only qualification. At its worst – it’s an outright lie. I mean, 99.9 percent of people fail. You will also find more divisive complaints: “The place is a scam.” “It isn’t a legitimate place of business.” You will find some positive reviews by satisfied employees; but you will also see many exaggerated, completely over-the-top positive reviews. When you speak negatively of a cult, the members of that cult will defend it – just as the owners and employees of this business system defend their companies. However, the character art sometimes comes across as ugly and a little odd. If this presentation is being made to you on the basis of fear or desperation: “Oh you’re a nurse? A simple Internet search of the concepts discussed in this film will yield websites, blogs, and videos detailing so many people’s similar experiences in this unending circle of sales slavery – which honestly and truly benefits only a small handful of people at the very top of the pyramid. I didn’t. The stories of one week bear no relationship to those of another. Or “It’s something that you’ll learn later,” “Oh it’s something we’ll teach you another time.” And that was something that I think stood out to me a little bit was the amount of information I wasn’t allowed to have; but other than that the interview process was very compelling, it was very convincing. I mean, granted, I’m not doing probably the great thing where I’m making $120,000; but really like show me some people that are so successful. If you approach a woman, you’re taught to extend your arm toward their chest. Sometimes you won’t even need to apply. The psychology being that they’re more likely to grab the product and not ignore you if you’re extending something toward a more “sensitive area.” Once they grab it, you then want to get them back to the booth, where all of the products are. We are still recruiting, contact me, or hop in our in-game channel! That’s just they call it the Greed Factor – everyone’s doing it, you should do it, you don’t want to be the only person who doesn’t do it. The Usual Suspects is a 1995 film about a boat that has been destroyed, leaving criminals dead, and the key to this mystery lies with the only survivor and his twisted, convoluted story beginning with five career crooks in a seemingly random police lineup. Some e-mails include step-by-step nonverbal instructions for each customer interaction. Currently, we live in null-sec. In other words, you repeat what the masters tell you – and you accept it as true. And how much is it worth to you that you are willing to look these people in the eye that you are going to be hiring, and know that these people are going to get fucked over? About a week before I left, I therapeutically journaled in the back of one of my many notebooks of indoctrinations and propaganda just how hopelessly stuck I felt: “If I had another job opportunity lined up, I would be gone tomorrow.” “I know I have to work but at what point can I stop mentally torturing myself with something I have lost all interest in and grown to loathe?” “I’m only still here because I have nothing else; and we have tons of never-ending bills.” I guess you could say I had “lost my attitude.” For a while I got caught up in the promises of it and I think that it was because I was, you know, pretty hard off. When everybody’s looking at the top dogs in the company going “Look how much money they have, I can get there one day;” and when (muted) is giving these speeches about “I started on the streets, knocking on doors, going door-to-door selling things,” well yeah, but you’re not telling the whole story. Cuz everything starts over again. Sign In The Good Wife. We gotta have a critical conversation with them!” You will be bombarded with clichés that are meant to inspire you, and get you through your days in the field. Showing all 83 items Jump to: Photos (52) Quotes (31) Photos . If the interviewer likes you, you will be contacted for a 2nd interview. If you can sell, you will be promoted to “Team Leader” and be given additional responsibilities: training new employees, doing 2nd round interviews to build your team, running meetings, and having “critical conversations” with under-performing reps – all without an extra dime of pay. Just like anything on the Internet, you have to take each review with a grain of salt. – Yeah! – Yes. Do they have the ability to explain the mentality and the why behind the marketing psychology that they’re teaching? But if we’re advertising it’s supposed to last long and stuff, it should just work. "Cypress Development Corp is a Canadian exploration company. Like you have to be on-call for your new people to basically give you a phone call for how their day went you gotta break it down, you gotta go to team meetings, you gotta go to team nights, you gotta hold meetings; and every single day that you have off you’re still entitled to work for this company and if you don’t it gets shunned upon – and basically as she was about to answer that question, the head honcho vice president I guess she was right? After two unsuccessful tries, you receive the conversation about falling behind. Every negative thing you will do is a reflection of your having broken these commandments; and those negative things will need to change. Every single one of our marketing techniques was broken down into these cutesy little phrases so that we could kinda, you know, beat them into people’s heads and on the one hand that was a good thing to remember all of the marketing techniques; but on the other hand a lot of them seemed dehumanizing towards the people not only us but the people we were supposed to be selling things to. I mean the speaker were, they were cool. It was explicitly stated, regarding mentality, that the goal of team leaders is to “debug” their recruit’s current mindset, and “reprogram” them, and to “change the way people think.” Some leaders meetings were based on talking to the people on your team and building and growing and motivating others; where some other meetings were basically just a bunch of people sitting around an office that had this “status” of leadership talking smack about the other people, being like: “You see that ghetto sweater they wore instead of a jacket? They’re the person that walks into the events, and they’re working like 30 hours in the events. You will also be required to logon to at least one national conference call. And although they said to not pressure nobody, but then some of the techniques that we had was to pressure people. Fitzpatrick: These companies employ some very sophisticated pressure tactics, persuasion tactics usually involving group dynamics. You build impulse by successfully “5 Stepping” the customer – A direct reference to the first system you learn on your first day in the business. Because I know that in the business you’re pretty much encouraged to distance yourself from negative feedback. And that doesn’t include all the 50-cents worth of bullshit that you get with it. And like that... he is gone. They held that a corporation is not a pyramid scheme if: the company does not pay distributors simply for recruiting new salespeople; new salespeople are not required to purchase inventory; distributors made money from the direct sales of products to customers. Mid-investigation, to ensure that the police was not offending the Amish, Grace informed Chief King that she would tend for Isaac H… If you show some type of “go get ’em” positive attitude, and don’t say anything stupid, or ask any critical questions about the company and the sales process, you will likely be offered the position. You start to grind. This is likely to present severe logistical challenges for implementers in the places where the vaccine needs to be rolled out — at least given where the outbreaks have taken place to date — in countries in West, Central and East Africa. You know that 99 percent of these people aren’t gonna make it fucking anywhere; but you’re like, “No it’ll be great, it’ll be great, you know, just fucking work harder, work harder, just do it a little harder! First there is the individual approach, or “check it out!” So an introduction that we are going to use is like “Hi, how’s it going?” “Here, check it out!” The idea here is to be quick, interactive, and not too pushy. The pace and ambiguity of the 1st interview leads many people to the 2nd one without even knowing what the job is for which they are interviewing. – Avoid negative people, avoid stinkin’ thinkin’. They’re putting in 80-percent. You’re also taught to approach women and men differently. – For me, yes. It’s not designed to be long-term efficient; and of those 12 people I think 8 of them were regional managers so they’ve been here forever. If you get another “no,” this is your “two no’s and a go.” You end the conversation and start all over again with a new customer. The constant and repetitive bombardment of this information is tantamount to indoctrination – or even brainwashing – and requires the individual to accept these concepts as normal, infallible law. From an entry-level position all you really see is the manager doing morning meeting and then they do interviews and it looks like their day is over. Honestly I have a bunch of people who still reach out to me that got out of the business after I did who are also some of those “failures.” They’re like, “Man I should’ve gotten out so much earlier!” “I should’ve left when you left.” “Man how did you stay in that long? I took that home; tried to mash potatoes like I used to say it did. They e-mailed me. Now, from that experience, I look through companies now. So we are looking for somebody who wants to learn about how sales works because they understand it’s the bread and the butter of business; and move from that and put themselves into a management-type position.” Once you become a team leader, usually within the first 4 to 6 weeks, you will be welcomed to the next level of indoctrination: the team leaders’ meetings. You then want to approach to try to get “product-in-hand.” The idea being if the customer grabs the product, there is a greater likelihood they are going to buy it. You might be told you will be interviewing with an “event marketing company” that does “on-sight product promotions.” They may glamorize the position by emphasizing “there is no cold-calling involved.” They also make sure you have a car. I got a phone call like “Yeah, so…” By a phone call saying they saw me on like a Career Builder website. “Hi there!” “Here, check it out!” Or you see a demonstration of a new, limited-time-only product available for purchase? At the Dallas leadership conferences specifically, where ownership is sold in the most blatant and aggressive manner, the true hierarchy of the business is clearly evident. 7 hours ago Arson Unit Investigating Newark House Fire Three people were hurt in … And even to this day if I go to Sam’s Club or Walmart and people are doing what I used to do, they’re very like “Hey come on come on, well just try it, just try it.” I’m like, you know, “Chill!” I don’t like that. I would put more stock in our clients.” Disregarding this nonsense, here are some things to look for when scouting Internet feedback. Everybody is standing. If you have a bad day, you didn’t use the systems well enough. Your first day in the business is a surreal experience. The similarities to this marketing circle are stunning. But you’re going to become an employee with greater degree of responsibility. Does anybody go hiking in the park or picnicking, tailgating, barbecues, ok? – Black. Are they teaching things back the same way that they learned them? The indoctrination continues after morning atmosphere. Another common method to get people to buy things is to get them together in a group and get one person so excited about buying the product, they impulse everybody else around them to buy it. The more questions a person answers affirmatively, the more they see themselves finding use out of that product; and it makes coming over for the free gift even more worthwhile. When talking to a customer, never say “buy” or “sell.” You don’t want to give them the impression that they have to spend money to make a purchase, or that they are being sold to. Again, it’s all about sales, and specifically selling yourself. Within your first week, you will be expected to learn and teach back all four systems. Sales is advertised as only being a small part of the job: you’re not sellers, you’re promoters. Because you can’t say in the beginning, “Oh it doesn’t matter if you sell or not, you’re gonna have good days and bad days,” and then… – Do you feel it was overly downplayed? They’re really nice products. They use a lot of the same building of relationships and building of rapport and building of trust between the person who’s your manager and the other members of the team to give you a personal reason to stay there and they don’t do it because they want everyone to get along and they want the business to thrive. You get the most interviews you move to a trainer and then you move on to owner. Sometimes you won’t see a name at all: just a quote from the elusive “firm president.” Some of these companies’ pages display a seal identifying themselves as being verified by “Fair Business Report,” and acclaimed as one of Fair Business Reports’ “Top Places to Work.” This sounds like it could be a way to identify legitimate businesses; but upon several Internet searches of the phrase “Fair Business Report,” the only companies that have ever been recognized by this obscure group are companies that belong to this marketing circle. – Perfect! A bad day in the field may have been because you “lost your attitude” – Started thinking negatively, or in other words got “negged out,” and probably didn’t think enough about your “Step 7.” Challenges, everything’s just a “challenge.” “Oh you had a challenging day.” I found it really patronizing the way that they used that because on the one hand, yeah I understand that you need to approach everyday as though “Hey, I’m going to encounter challenges, there are going to be problems that I need to overcome, there are going to be obstacles.” But I found that in the office context and in the cultural context of that business, it was used as a way to undermine legitimate critiques and complaints about the work we were being told to do, or the neighborhoods that we were told to do it in, or complete and basic denials of the demographic facts that we were dealing with; and it was something that was meant to be an empowering thing and it became a belittling thing. We need to get the products from the place where we can get them the cheapest; and if they start making them in the U.S. for as cheap as they can make them in China, then we’ll start buying from the U.S.” And for that to happen, for that kind of corporate dream – and this is what, the people who are at the top of the company, this is what they want, for that to happen workers in the United States would have to be paid as low-wages as workers in China. There are also certain words the business deems “swear words” that you should never EVER say. MLMs are systems where individuals sell products to their friends, family members, and co-workers, get them to become distributors of those products themselves, and have them continue to recruit other distributors to sell the same products. Researching the websites and social media pages of every single one of these “award-winning companies” results in the same generic stock photos, the same images of smiling team leaders, and the same gatherings at the same leadership conferences. EVE Corporations, Alliances and Organizations Center, Alliance & Corporation Recruitment Center. You are about to be taught the first of Every aspect of the business relies on these four law-like systems. You will be met by a team leader – ideally the person who did your second-round interview – in order to show you a familiar face. But on the other hand, I was miserable. You’ll hear new owners rave about how great the business is and veteran owners relish in their celebrity – as leaders are taught to worship their success. This is how ownership is sold – in every morning meeting, leaders’ meeting, and national leaders’ conference. The unorthodoxy of the office atmosphere is a pretty tell-tale sign you have stumbled into the slave circle. “If I bust my ass now, it’ll be easy street later!” Eventually, I couldn’t take anymore; and I spent a large portion of my time in the field searching for and applying for other jobs. So if you’re telling somebody how you were struggling, how you overcame it with the company, it appeased me. They do it because they want you to be stuck – they want you to be on the hook. If they create enough team leaders, they get promoted to ownership. They’ll tell you it isn’t a sales position. – You get a second one for being so smart. i'm totally not bias at all either so take my word for it :P. Bumping again! 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